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[Fluxbox-users] [fluxbox-users] Problem with fluxbox, or Xorg...
Javier Vasquez
2010-03-09 18:05:17 UTC
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Hi,

Recently Xorg incorporated the changes mentioned in:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/patch/?id=351d11fd466fae731df860a6ff4cf50ad565f43f

This affects several window managers, including fluxbox, as you can
see by the following arch-linux bug:

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18598

However it's not clear whether the Xorg changes are OK, and the window
managers need to be compliant with them, or if it's Xorg which needs
to revert the changes and never go that path...

Notice it was found that bloated desktop window managers like for KDE
or gnome, were not affected by the changes, essentially fluxbox,
pekwm, and icewm...

Thanks,
--
Javier.
oleksandr korneta
2010-03-10 05:32:17 UTC
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Post by Javier Vasquez
Hi,
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/patch/?id=351d11fd466fae731df860a6ff4cf50ad565f43f
This affects several window managers, including fluxbox, as you can
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18598
damn! so this is what made my fluxbox totally unusable after yesterdays
update. I asked on fedora-users, but there nobody cares.

So here is what I observe:
every second time when a new window opens the system stalls. The
interface becomes totally unresponsive. No reaction to mouse clicks,
hotkey combinations don't work, nothing helps. Only when I switch to
console and kill the latest (only latest) started application I'm back
to normal. Looks like all the clicks and keypresses are buffered during
the system is unresponsive, and they get executed all at once after the
kill. This happens almost with every second window I open no matter of
applications. Funny things happen with hotkey combinations. They can be
executed only it I remove the focus from the latest opened window,
otherwise -- nothing works.

On top of that there are random crashes of some other applications (i.e.
thunderbird) that work just fine on other WMs.

here is xorg-* stuff that was updated

Mar 08 23:02:24 Updated: xorg-x11-server-common-1.7.5-5.fc12.x86_64
Mar 08 23:02:25 Updated: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.5-5.fc12.x86_64
Mar 08 23:03:19 Updated: xorg-x11-server-devel-1.7.5-5.fc12.x86_64
Mar 08 23:05:04 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-195.36.08-1.fc12.x86_64
Mar 08 23:05:08 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-195.36.08-1.fc12.i686
Mar 08 23:05:16 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-195.36.08-1.fc12.x86_64
Post by Javier Vasquez
However it's not clear whether the Xorg changes are OK, and the window
managers need to be compliant with them, or if it's Xorg which needs
to revert the changes and never go that path...
Notice it was found that bloated desktop window managers like for KDE
or gnome, were not affected by the changes, essentially fluxbox,
pekwm, and icewm...
Gnome and Openbox (to which I temporary switched now) are not affected.
But I want back to fluxbox!
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regards,
Oleksandr Korneta

I'm running F12 x86_64, should this matter.

/The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from./
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